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WELCOME DnA ADDICTS to JACKEL's CORNER
This is a NEW addition to an already eXotic issue from your favorite
bunch of Cyberlistic, to cool to be FUNKY, here's the REAL story, just
for YOU crew.
What you will see in this new FORUM, will be the voices that are heard
around the world. I will be doing my best to bring you the Real Story,
from the people who made it happen. This forum is open to those whose
interests touch on the weekness, as well as those who wish to protect
all from evil. This Forum will also be your access to the people who
make it happen. We look forward to interviews with the entire NuKE
Staff, the people at Phal/Skis, Y.A. Mcafee, ect. We also hope to draw
the interest of those in the A.V sector; Dr.Solly, ect. Rebutal is only
fair. There will be no FLAMMING, just the FACTS.
I want to open this Forum up to questions for the above mentioned. I
will pick those that best express the views that represent, on a whole,
the views of the readers of DnA Mag. These will be included in the next
issue of DnA, with a response, if possible. I can be reached by E-Mail
at my BBS -=KGB=- (714) or on "DIGITAL DECAY (714)." If you don't have the
either of the numbers, you can reach me on NuKE Net / NuKE the WoRLd;
otherwise, download the latest copy of the CRYPTLTR (Crypt News Letter)
I believe that #17 is the latest issue, and has the # to Digital Decay.
This Months "FEATURED WRITER" is "ARISTOTLE" of "NuKE"
Welcome ARiSToTLE; What Makes You TICK ???
Name: Ah well!
Alias: ARiSToTLE
Age: 34
Home: Newport News, Virginia
BBS: BLACK AXiS VX
(804)599.4152
NUP: NEWLOZER
Groups: Someone said NuKE
Viruses Written: Have you ever seen a virus with my name in it?
I didn't think so!
(ıÖcKäL) (Q: Since most of the world knows about you only through the eyes
of those who fear you most, how about letting us in on the Wonder Years
of "Aristotle." What was your insperation that led you to become what
you are today ??
(ARiSToTLE)(A:
Fear me! Whatever for? I keep hearing these rumblings from a number of
tiny corners in the world and wonder how my being came to be something
equated to 'EViL'. I am a political animal. There is nothing about me
of which to be afraid. All of this AV/VX stuff came about as a result
of a simple research study I did while in my senior year at the College
of William and Mary, in Williamsburg, Virginia. ( Ok. Cheap plug!) :)
Essentially, I began looking at the computer underground as a source
of information to aid me in writing a article entitled, 'H/P/V/A/C:
The Costs As They Apply To The World Business Community'. This article
was to either prove or disprove the general consensus of the business
community, the claims that the computer underground was costing them
millions. (It looks great on paper!) After a short period, I narrowed
the scope of my focus to include only the Virus/Anti-Virus struggle.
It turns out that the AV has more of a hand in what is going on in the
undeground than you would first imagine at first glance. Everybody
ranks on ol' McAffe. No matter if it's AV or VX, they all having some
negative commentary to belch forth. I will be the first to admit, that
in spite of what you might think, this guy is doing really well as a
business. I don't really think you'll see John in any Fido echos,
arguing with virus authors. Nor will he carry the burning cross of
righteousness, beating the VX for what they do. In fact, if you watch
how he operates, you just might learn something. In earlier days, a
few mistakes in the public came back to haunt him, but I believe he
has managed to disassociate himself from a lot of the tactics that
the present day 'Holy-Rollin' AV guys are doing. Simply run down to
a stock broker and order a prospectus on the guy. A friend of mine
upload some excerpts from it and I was quite amazed...
"Need any help, John?"
Two semesters of research, two 'A's, and an absolute metric buttload
of computer viruses and source codes are what I have to show for my
work. So I thought, 'What now?', and the obvious smacked me between the
eyes. SELL 'EM! It's the way of the American entreprenuer. At first,
I wasn't sure there was a market for computer viruses, but let me tell
you what! I was amazed at how many people wanted these things. This
is where I started getting this 'EViL' stigma tagged to my name. The
anti-virus community, the 'AV', is made up of people that don't want
me telling the general public what is actually going on with all this
- 'The Virus That Ate New York' hype.
Basically, it is like this; there are some people with commercially
vested interests that are playing the media and legislative bodies
like a orchestra. Their goal is to obtain legislation or regulation
that will restrict your rights with respect to what you can and cannot
have. They know full well that most 'legitimate' people will stop
tinkering around and that the hardcore underground will continue even
after such things are in place. This means that information will soon
become a marketable commodity in this field and they want a dominant
position if and when it does. If people like myself can be restricted
from research, then fewer people will have access to information, thus
the basic concepts of economic supply and demand will yield a greater
profit for those who enjoy the fruits of approval.
(ıÖcKäL) (Q: Now that 1993 is more than ´ over, what are your views on the
general activity of GROUPS as we have come to know them ??
(ARiSToTLE)(A:
I see NuKE trying to legitimize their existance with a different
approach to things they enjoy doing. Knowing that the AV uses things
like the VCL to market their product, I have been working on getting
some folks to market their product as a 'Researcher's Toolkit' and
selling it under licensing agreements. I don't however advocate writing
the problem and subsequently selling the cure. In addition to this,
I am presently getting a FiDO echo known as 'NuKE_THEWORLD', put on
the backbone. This will serve in allowing people with questions about
viruses and the people behind the scene, the opportunity to get an
unbiased or censored answer staight from the horses mouth. It also
gives people in the underground the chance to be heard on an equal
platform. Perhaps here, something can be learned from both sides of
the fence.
(ıÖcKäL) (Q: Was there any one thing in 1993' that generally upset you???
(ARiSToTLE)(A:
Yes! When ARCV was arrested in England for phreaking, the police
rushed in and seized his computer, yet it was not his computer he
used in phreaking. It was his phone. They already knew that he,
(Apache Warrior), was tied into his neighbors house with a drop
line, but they needed a reason to seize his machine. Once they took
his computer, naturally they found viruses that he 'alledgedly' had
written. To date, he has yet to be charged and they are still holding
his equipment. The twist here is that Dr. Solomon is supposedly a
technical advisor on this case and he is the person who is running
amuck telling the world about the case. Apache Warrior is basically
being tried in public via FiDO and INTERNET. This is where I get a
tad bit annoyed. It was alledged by someone that *I* was a member of
this ARCV group. Dr. Solomon and other are running around every chance
they get re-telling this story in hopes that it becomes some type of
'general knowledge' and enough to get me taken to England to disclaim
the allegation. Solomon and I have spent hours on the phone in the
last 10 months, discussing this and other issues. He knows full well
that I am not and have never been a member of ARCV. What he does know
is that a 34 year old man with a wife a two kids, can't very well
take off and go to England to defend crap like this. So, in hope
of silencing my voice, he continues to chatter. THIS is what chaps
my ass and the drive for me to continue exposing software developer's
true light.
(ıÖcKäL) (Q: Have you any words of wisdom to leave in your wake?
Of course! :) Unless you're a big, mean mother and can really defend
yourself well... Think long and hard before you let the 'coolness'
of the computer underground put you in a jailhouse with a bunch of
guys who want to play EDNA with you. You can rest assured that some
fool in jail will be thinking 'long and hard' about you...
(REMEMBER, YOU READ THIS HERE!!)
(ıÖcKäL) (Q: What is the future of NuKe.
(ARiSToTLE)(A:
Live day by day! - What is your future?
≥ƒƒƒƒ≤˛≤˛≤˛≤˛≤˛==ƒƒƒƒƒƒ, ... a shot of reality never hurt!
ARiSToTLE
Take it from someone who KNOWS !! The SHIT gets thicker the closer
YOU GET to the "FIRE".
Next iSSUE; Supprise, Supprise, Supprise,,,
Till Then, -=ıÖcKäL=-